SoftwareEOS DIGITAL SOLUTION DISK Ver. 5Please read these instructions carefully before using the EOS 10D software.This guide should be kept in a saf
A-9Computer System RequirementsThe software bundled with this product runs on the systems described below.Windows System RequirementsWindows XP (Home
W-88Uninstallation ProcedureFor Windows Me and Windows 98 SE users:1Click the [Start] button and select [Settings] s [Control Panel].Then double-click
W-89Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WUninstallation Procedure6Delete [DRVDATA.BIN] and [DRVIDX.BIN].7Double-click the [Other] folder in the [INF] f
W-90Uninstallation ProcedureUninstalling Photoshop Elements 2.0● Before beginning the software uninstallation, close all programs you are using anddis
W-91Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WAdobe Systems Inc. technical support information is available in the PDF file format on thesupplied CD-ROM.PDF
W-92IndexAAdjusting the ColorColor Saturation ... W-32Color Tone ... W-32Contrast .
W-93Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WIndexTWAIN Driver Main Window ... W-62ZoomBrowser EXCamera Window ... W-64Z
M11Installing the Software on YourComputer ... M-3Installing the Software ... M-4Installing the So
Saving Images as an Index File ... M-36Transferring Images to RetouchingSoftware ... M-38Specifying
M11This chapter describes how to install the bundled software.Installing the Software onYour Computer
A-10Computer System RequirementsMacintosh System Requirements● These software programs are not compatible with UFS (Unix File System) formatted diskso
M-4Installing the SoftwareInstalling the Software from the EOSDIGITAL SOLUTION DISKDo not connect the camera to your computer before you have installe
M-5Installing the Software on Your ComputerM1Installing the Software5Select the software to be installed.● Click the checkboxes for thesoftware to be
M-6Installing the SoftwareInstalling Photoshop Elements 2.0● You are required to enter the serial number during Photoshop Elements 2.0 installation. T
M22This chapter explains how to connect the camera to your computer andhow to use a card reader (third-party product).Getting Ready to Work withImages
M-8Connecting the Camera to Your ComputerConnect the camera to your computer with the interface cable so that they can communicate.You can connect the
M-9Getting Ready to Work with ImagesM2Connecting the Camera to Your Computer● Use only the dedicated interface cable to connect the camera to your com
M-10Inserting a CF Card into Your Card ReaderTo download images from a CF card directly onto your computer, remove the CF card fromyour camera and loa
M33This chapter explains how to use File Viewer Utility to display and saveimages stored on a CF card loaded in the camera, and also explains howto pe
M-121Connect the camera to your computer. (➞M-8)● In OS 9, ImageBrowser starts up and the [Auto Run] dialog box appears. Click the[Cancel] button and
M-13Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Starting File Viewer UtilityFile Viewer Utility main window* The above window shows all the informatio
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M-14Starting File Viewer UtilityCamera Settings button(➞M-42)Display AF point button (➞M-20)Erase image button (➞M-23)Select final image button (➞M-17
M-15Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Starting File Viewer UtilityDigital Exposure Compensation button (➞M-26)White Balance list box(➞M-27,
M-16Displaying ImagesThis section describes how to display images stored on a CF card in a camera or yourcomputer.You can display images stored on a C
M-17Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Selecting ImagesSelecting Images with the MousePosition the mouse cursor over the image and click on i
M-18Selecting the Model-Specific Processing ModeYou can display the RAW image process tool bar for processing RAW images.By selecting the model of a c
M-19Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3 [Preview]The selected image is displayed as a single image. [JPEG Preview]When you select a RAW ima
M-20Selecting the Image Display ModeChecking the AF PointThe AF point used when the shot was taken can be displayed.1Select [Preview] or [JPEG Preview
M-21Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Selecting the Image Display ModeShowing/Hiding the Information DisplayFrame of Thumbnail ImagesYou can
M-22Selecting Images by ConditionThis feature allows you to select multiple images in a single operation using conditions.Click the [Select Image] but
M-23Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Working with Selected ImagesRotating ImagesUse the procedure below to rotate a selected image by 90-de
WindowsWWhere explanations are common to all operating systems, the screens used in the examplesare from Windows XP.1Installing the Software on YourCo
M-24Working with Selected ImagesImage information display area● Displays information such as the file name, camera model name and shootingdata. The nu
M-25Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Processing RAW ImagesRAW images are processed so that they are optimized for their intended use. As we
M-26Processing RAW Images2Compensate the image brightness.● Drag the slider left or right with themouse to adjust the imagebrightness.● When you click
M-27Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Processing RAW ImagesAdjusting the White BalanceYou can adjust the white balance in your RAW images.Yo
M-28Processing RAW ImagesSetting the Color TemperatureYou can set the color temperature to a value between 2800K and 10000K (in 100Kincrements).1Selec
M-29Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Processing RAW ImagesClick White Balance FunctionThis function allows you to automatically adjust the
M-30Processing RAW ImagesAdjusting the Color in ImagesUse the procedures below to adjust the color parameters (contrast, color saturation and colorton
M-31Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Processing RAW ImagesAdjusting the SharpnessYou can adjust the edge sharpness of the image.Select the
M-32Saving ImagesThis section explains how to save captured images stored on a CF card onto your computer,how to extract JPEG images from RAW images u
M-33Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Saving ImagesConversion FormatDo not convertExif-JPEGExif-TIFF(8bit/ch)TIFF(16bit/ch)File Extension_.C
Saving Images as an Index File ... W-38Transferring Images to RetouchingSoftware ... W-40Specifying
M-34Saving ImagesExtract & Save JPEG dialog box17823546Extracting JPEG Images from RAW ImagesWhen a RAW image is shot on the EOS 10D, a JPEG image
M-35Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Saving Images1 The converted image is saved in the same folder as the displayed image. You cannotselec
M-36Saving ImagesSaving Images as an Index FileThis function combines multiple images into an index image and saves the index on yourcomputer as a sin
M-37Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Saving Images12345674Specify the desired settings and click the [OK] button.\ The images are saved as
M-385Select the folder for saving the transferred images and then clickthe [Choose] button.\ The folder is specified and then the [General Settings] t
M-39Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Transferring Images to Retouching SoftwareTransferring ImagesThis section describes how to transfer th
M-40Specifying the PreferencesYou can use the procedure below to specify the general settings for File Viewer Utility and theprocessing method for RAW
M-41Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Specifying the PreferencesRAW Image Processing settings tab sheet865711● You can specify the settings
M-42Specifying the Camera SettingsUse the procedure described here to apply the owner name and date and time settings to thecamera. The owner name, an
M-43Working with Images in File Viewer UtilityM3Specifying the Camera SettingsBasic Settings tab sheetThis box shows the Camera’smodel name, Body ID a
W11This chapter describes how to install the bundled software.Installing the Software onYour Computer
M-44Specifying the Camera SettingsSetting the Owner’s Name, Date and Time1Enter the Owner’s Name.● Type in the name from your keyboard. You can enter
M4This chapter describes the operations using the RemoteCapture software,such as remote shooting, timer shooting and interval timer shooting.● For mor
M-46Starting RemoteCapture1Connect the camera to your computer. (➞M-8)● In OS 9, ImageBrowser starts up and the [Auto Run] dialog box appears. Click t
M-47Operating the Camera from Your ComputerM4Starting RemoteCaptureImage display areaDisplays the image selectedin the thumbnail view.HistogramShows t
M-48Using RemoteCaptureYou can control the camera from your computer and take single-frame shots, timer shots andinterval timer shots. The images are
M-49Operating the Camera from Your ComputerM4Using RemoteCapture● With the auto focusing, if the camera cannot focus, you cannot take shots.If you can
M-50Using RemoteCaptureTimer ShootingUse this function to specify the timer delay. Timer shooting shots are then taken after thespecified number of se
M-51Operating the Camera from Your ComputerM4This section describes how to make various settings for using RemoteCapture. In the settings,you can spec
M-52Setting RemoteCapture1 You can use this option to take shots when there is no CF card in the camera or when theCF card is full.2 Saves captured im
M-53Operating the Camera from Your ComputerM4Setting RemoteCapture142536Detailed SettingsYou can set shooting settings, such as White Balance and Expo
W-4Installing the SoftwareInstalling the Software from the EOSDIGITAL SOLUTION DISK● The software must be installed using the procedure described belo
M-54Setting RemoteCapture1 Allows you to specify White Balance.2 Allows you to perform Exposure Compensation.(Enabled only when Program AE, Shutter-pr
M5This chapter explains how to use ImageBrowser to perform a range ofoperations from downloading the camera’s images to printing them.● For more infor
M-56Starting ImageBrowserYou can start up ImageBrowser for OS 9 either from the icon or from the [Auto Run] dialog boxdisplayed when you connect the c
M-57Working with Images in ImageBrowserM5Starting ImageBrowserWhat to Do the Next Time ImageBrowser is StartedThe automatic processing settings select
M-58Starting ImageBrowserFolders areaThe [RAW] symbol isdisplayed for RAW images.Browser areaDisplays the images in the folderselected in the Folders
M-59Working with Images in ImageBrowserM5Starting ImageBrowserSaves images from the computeronto the CF card in the camera.An image of the connectedca
M-60Starting ImageBrowserDisabling ImageBrowser Auto StartUse the procedure below to prevent ImageBrowser for OS 9 from starting up automaticallywhen
M-61MWorking with Images in ImageBrowser5Downloading and Saving ImagesThe procedure below describes how to download the images saved on a CF card in t
M-62Downloading and Saving Images● You can also download images to the computer by dragging them from the Camerawindow and dropping them on the Browse
M-63MWorking with Images in ImageBrowser5Printing Images1Display images in the browser window. (➞M-61)2Select the image(s) you wish to print in the Br
W-5Installing the Software on Your ComputerW1Installing the Software3Click [Software Installation].4Click the [Next] button.5Read all of the Software
M-64Printing Images5Click the [Page setup] button.\ The Page Setup window opens.6Set the paper size and orientation, and then click the [OK] button.\
M-65Working with Images in ImageBrowserM5Printing ImagesDisplays the [Layout Options]dialog box.Displays the Printer Setupdialog box.Edit the Page Tit
M-66Printing Images● Changing the image sizeYou can change size of an image by moving the cursor over the image and draggingthe displayed arrows.* Dep
M-67MWorking with Images in ImageBrowser5Printing ImagesAdjusting the Image Quality and Printing(Exif 2.2 compatible)ImageBrowser includes an image qu
M-68Processing RAW Images and Merging Panorama ShotsProcessing RAW Images with ImageBrowserTo process RAW images from ImageBrowser, start up File View
M6This chapter provides a troubleshooting manual and describes thesoftware uninstallation procedures.Troubleshooting andUninstallation6
M-70TroubleshootingWhen the “Could not complete installation correctly”, “Communication between the cameraand computer failed” or “Software not runnin
M-71MTroubleshooting and Uninstallation6TroubleshootingThe software doesn’t run properly.● Is the preferences file for the software corrupted?➞ The pr
M-72Uninstallation Procedure● With the exception of ImageBrowser for OS 9, the software uninstallation procedure is thesame for both OS 9 and OS X.● B
M-73MTroubleshooting and Uninstallation6Adobe Systems Inc. technical support information is available in the PDF file format on thesupplied CD-ROM.PDF
W-6Installing the Software8Proceed with the installation as directed by the on-screenmessages.9When installation has finished, restart your computer.1
M-74IndexAAdjusting Image Quality and Printing(Exif Print) ... M-67Adjusting the ColorColor Saturation ...
CT1-1242-001 © CANON INC. 2003 PRINTED IN JAPANThis Instructions booklet is current as of February 2003. For information on using thecamera with syste
W-7Installing the Software on Your ComputerW1Installing the Software13Set the camera’s main switch to <ON>.\ Driver installation ends.● The comp
A-1READ CAREFULLY BEFORE USING!CANON SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENTIMPORTANT - READ THIS AGREEMENT BEFORE USING THE SOFTWARE ON THECD-ROM IN THIS BOX. BY
W-8Installing the SoftwareInstalling Photoshop Elements 2.0● You are required to enter the serial number during Photoshop Elements 2.0 installation. T
2W2This chapter explains how to connect the camera to your computer andhow to use a card reader (third-party product).Getting Ready to Work withImages
W-10Connecting the Camera to Your ComputerConnect the camera to your computer with the interface cable so that they can communicate.You can connect th
W-11Getting Ready to Work with Images2WConnecting the Camera to Your ComputerWhen you connect your camera to a computer, you should use the DC Coupler
W-12Inserting a CF Card into Your Card ReaderTo download images from a CF card directly onto your computer, remove the CF card fromyour camera and loa
W33This chapter explains how to use File Viewer Utility to display and saveimages stored on a CF card loaded in the camera, and also explains howto pe
W-141Connect the camera to your computer. (➞W-10)\ An event dialog box appears.● Click the [Cancel] button to close the dialog box.\ In Windows Me, th
W-15Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WStarting File Viewer UtilityDisplay Mode list box (➞W-21)Menu barDisplays the [File], [Edit], [View],a
W-16Starting File Viewer UtilityDisplay AF Point button (➞W-22)Save File button (➞W-34, W-36, W-38)Erase Image button (➞W-25)Preferences button(➞W-42)
W-17Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WStarting File Viewer UtilityDigital Exposure Compensation button (➞W-28)White Balance list box(➞W-29,
READ CAREFULLY BEFORE USING!A-2SUBSIDIARIES, DISTRIBUTORS AND DEALERS DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESSOR IMPLIED, INCLUDING ANY WARRANTY OF MERCHANTAB
W-18Displaying ImagesThis section describes how to display images stored on a CF card in a camera or yourcomputer.You can display images stored on a C
W-19Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSelecting ImagesSelecting Images with the MousePosition the mouse cursor over the image and click on i
W-20Selecting the Model-Specific Processing ModeYou can display the RAW image process tool bar for processing RAW images.By selecting the model of a c
W-21Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3W [Preview]The selected image is displayed as a single image. [JPEG Preview]When you select a RAW ima
W-22Selecting the Image Display ModeSelecting the Display SizeClick the [Display Size] list box and select the display size.\ The image is displayed i
W-23Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSelecting the Image Display ModeShowing/Hiding the Information DisplayFrame of Thumbnail ImagesYou can
W-24Protecting ImagesYou can protect important images to prevent them from being accidentally erased.Click the [Protect] button.● When multiple images
W-25Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WWorking with Selected ImagesRotating ImagesUse the procedure below to rotate a selected image by 90-de
W-26Working with Selected ImagesComment input boxYou can use this box to type in a comment up to 120 characters long.Type in your comment and press th
W-27Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WProcessing RAW ImagesRAW images are processed so that they are optimized for their intended use. As we
A-3Manual Organization, How to Read the● This manual consists of a chapter for Windows followed by a chapter for Macintosh.● The information in these
W-28Processing RAW ImagesCorrecting the Brightness (Digital Exposure Compensation)You can correct the brightness of an image in the range of +/–2 stop
W-29Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WProcessing RAW ImagesAdjusting the White BalanceYou can adjust the white balance in your RAW images.Yo
W-30Processing RAW ImagesSetting the Color TemperatureYou can set the color temperature to a value between 2800K and 10000K (in 100Kincrements).1Selec
W-31Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WProcessing RAW ImagesClick White Balance FunctionThis function allows you to automatically adjust the
W-32Processing RAW ImagesAdjusting the Color in ImagesUse the procedures below to adjust the color parameters (contrast, color saturation and colorton
W-33Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WProcessing RAW ImagesAdjusting the SharpnessYou can adjust the edge sharpness of the image.Select the
W-341872109433Specify the desired settings and click the [OK] button.\ The images are saved in the selected folder.1 The converted image is saved in t
W-35Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSaving Images4 Shows the folder in which the image will be saved.5 Select this option when the images
W-36Saving Images14283567Extract & save JPEGs dialog boxExtracting JPEG Images from RAW ImagesWhen a RAW image is shot on the EOS 10D, a JPEG imag
W-37Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSaving Images1 The converted image is saved in the same folder as the displayed image. You cannotselec
A-4Install the software (➞W-3, M-3)Connect the camera to your computer (➞W-9, M-7)To work with the imagesStart File Viewer Utility (➞W-14, M-12)Displa
W-38Saving ImagesSaving Images as an Index FileThis function combines multiple images into an index image and saves the index on yourcomputer as a sin
W-39Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSaving Images4Specify the desired settings and click the [OK] button.\ The images are saved as an inde
W-405Select the folder for saving the transferred images and then clickthe [OK] button.\ The folder is specified and then the [General Settings] tab s
W-41Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WTransferring Images to Retouching SoftwareTransferring ImagesThis section describes how to transfer th
W-42●You can specify the settings shown below in the [General Settings] tab sheet.1 When you click the [Transfer Images] button (➞W-41), the retouchin
W-43Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSpecifying the PreferencesRAW Image Processing settings tab sheet4785691011● You can specify the setti
W-44Specifying the Camera SettingsUse the procedure described here to apply the owner name and date and time settings to thecamera. The owner name, an
W-45Working with Images in File Viewer Utility3WSpecifying the Camera SettingsThis box shows theCamera’s model name,Body ID and FirmwareVersion.These
W-46Specifying the Camera SettingsSetting the Owner’s Name, Date and Time1Enter the Owner’s Name.● Type in the name from your keyboard. You can enter
4WThis chapter describes the operations using the RemoteCapture software,such as remote shooting, timer shooting and interval timer shooting.● For mor
A-5Manual Organization, How to Read the Manual and the Conventions UsedSafety PrecautionsPlease read the safety precautions carefully before using thi
W-48Starting RemoteCapture1Connect the camera to your computer. (➞W-10)\ An event dialog box appears.● Click the [Cancel] button to close the dialog b
W-49Operating the Camera from Your Computer4WStarting RemoteCaptureHistogramShows the distributionof the brightness of animage.Image InformationAllows
W-50Using RemoteCaptureYou can control the camera from your computer and take single-frame shots, timer shots andinterval timer shots. The images are
W-51Operating the Camera from Your Computer4WUsing RemoteCapture● With the auto focusing, if the camera cannot focus, you cannot take shots.If you can
W-52Using RemoteCaptureTimer ShootingUse this function to specify the timer delay. Timer shooting shots are then taken after thespecified number of se
W-53Operating the Camera from Your Computer4WSetting RemoteCaptureThis section describes how to make various settings for using RemoteCapture. In the
W-54Setting RemoteCaptureYou can set the Hotkey for shutter release by selecting the [Release Hotkey] tab.1 You can use this option to take shots when
W-55Operating the Camera from Your Computer4WSetting RemoteCapture124536Detailed SettingsYou can set shooting settings, such as White Balance and Expo
W-56Setting RemoteCapture1 Allows you to specify White Balance.2 Allows you to perform Exposure Compensation.(Enabled only when Program AE, Shutter-pr
W55The WIA Driver is the driver software for Windows XP and Windows Me.The TWAIN Driver is the driver software for Windows 2000 and Windows 98SE.This
A-6MacintoshWindowsMacintoshWindowsSoftwareThis section briefly describes the main functions of the software provided on the bundled CD-ROM. EOS DIGI
W-58Downloading Images with the WIA DriverYou can only download JPEG images using the wizard, Microsoft Explorer or the WIA TWAINdriver. To download a
W-59Downloading Images with the WIA Driver/TWAIN Driver5WDownloading Images with the WIA DriverDownloading with Windows ExplorerJPEG images can be dow
W-60Downloading Images with the WIA DriverIf you use RemoteCapture to take shots while you are using Windows Explorer todisplay images on the camera,
W-61Downloading Images with the WIA Driver/TWAIN Driver5WDownloading Images with the WIA Driver4Select the [File] menu s [Import] s [WIA-EOS 10D].\ Th
W-62This explanation uses Photoshop Elements 2.0 as an example to illustrate the procedures fordownloading images from the camera and transferring.If
6WThis chapter explains how to use ZoomBrowser EX to perform a range ofoperations including downloading the camera’s images, printing them, andsending
W-64Deselects images.Starting ZoomBrowser EXZoomBrowser EX can be started from the dialog box that appears when you connect thecamera to your computer
W-65Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WStarting ZoomBrowser EXStarting ZoomBrowser EX Using the IconIf ZoomBrowser EX was not started when you con
W-66Starting ZoomBrowser EX2Click the [Camera & Memory Card] button and select [Display/Download images] from the menu that appears.\ The ZoomBrow
W-67Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WDownloading and Saving ImagesThe procedure below describes how to download the images saved on a CF card in
SoftwareA-7MacintoshWindowsMacintoshWindowsWindowsWindowsZoomBrowser EX/PhotoRecordImageBrowser● When you connect the camera to your computer with the
W-68Downloading and Saving ImagesCreates a new folderinside the selectedfolder and savesimages to that folder.2Specify the desired settings and click
W-69Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WPrinting Images in PhotoRecordIn ZoomBrowser EX, the PhotoRecord window is used to print images. In additio
W-70Printing Images in PhotoRecord* The print mode settings vary depending on your printer.Automatically adjusts the image layout.Arranges the images
W-71Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WPrinting Images in PhotoRecordOpens the [Print Mode]dialog box and allows youto change the settings. Seeste
W-72Printing Images in PhotoRecord● Changing the decorations for the entire pageTo select your preferred decorative design, open the [Change Page Artw
W-73Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WPrinting Images in PhotoRecordAdjusting the Image Quality and Printing(Exif 2.2 compatible)PhotoRecord incl
W-74Sets the quality of the image sent. (Lower quality willresult in a rougher image but a smaller file size.)Sending E-mail with Attached ImagesUse t
W-75Working with Images in ZoomBrowser EX6WSending E-mail with Attached Images5Select to send an e-mail message immediately or to save theimage and se
W-76Processing RAW Images and Merging Panorama ShotsProcessing RAW Images with ZoomBrowser EXTo process RAW images from ZoomBrowser EX, start up File
W77This chapter provides a troubleshooting manual and describes thesoftware uninstallation procedures.Troubleshooting andUninstallation
SoftwareA-8 Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 DISKPhotoshop Elements 2.0● This is a full-featured image retouching program equipped with a complete range
W-78When the “Could not complete installation correctly” or “Communication between the cameraand computer failed” message appears, check the items des
W-79Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WTroubleshooting● Is the driver operating normally?Connect the camera to your computerwith the interface cable
W-80Troubleshooting● Is the driver installed correctly?Connect the camera to your computer with the interface cable and set the camera’s mainswitch to
W-81Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WUninstallation Procedure● Before beginning the software uninstallation, close all programs you are using anddi
W-82Uninstallation ProcedureUninstalling the DriverTo uninstall the driver, you must first uninstall the WIA Driver or TWAIN Driver, then remove[EOS 1
W-83Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WUninstallation Procedure6Delete [EOS 10D].● If you are using Windows XP orWindows Me, select and right-click[E
W-84Uninstallation Procedure● If [EOS 10D] is displayed when you click the plus symbol [+] to the left of [Imagingdevices] or [Other devices], select
W-85Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WUninstallation ProcedureDeleting the Driver Settings FilesMistakenly deleting the wrong files can cause Window
W-86Uninstallation Procedure7Search for files called [Oem*.inf] or [Oem*.pnf].● Substitute a number such as 0 or 1 for the asterisk (*). Also, because
W-87Troubleshooting and Uninstallation7WUninstallation Procedure5Click the [OK] button to close the [Folder Options] dialog box.\ Previously hidden fo
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